The Discovery of Logos

In the beginning was the word . . . John 1:1 NASB

Word – We are not going to go another round on the Trinitarian debate over this verse. What we are going to do is examine how much of the Hellenized world was influenced by the Greek concept of logos. To do that, we need some historical and philosophical background.

In Greek thought logos is not about a person. It’s about abstract principles that claim to apply to all men everywhere. This is a monumental shift in the history of human thought. Before the Greeks, humanity was interested in territorial gods and customs, in tribal paradigms, because men lived within the confines of tribal societies. Even if those territories became the size of Assyria, the philosophy of tribalism predominated. Men worshiped local gods, lived according to local customs and thought of the world in terms of territorial ideas. We see this even in the Genesis accounts where Jacob, after experiencing the vision of the “ladder,” remarks that he couldn’t imagine God was in this place. Why couldn’t he image that? Because his God, YHVH, was a tribal God and therefore, geographically confined.

With the discovery of the idea of logos, the world was transformed. Local cultures were turned into ideologies claiming universal authority and application. And because logos was the paradigm of human thought, conceptual knowledge became independent of revelation. In other words, following Greek philosophy, understanding the true principles that governed the universe was available to all men with enlightened intellect. Logos usurped the role of the priest and the prophet. As Jonas remarks, a man became a Hellene “not by birth but by education.”[1]   The Greeks enthroned reason with the discovery of logos, and the Western world has never been the same. Today we absorb this Greek idea by cultural osmosis. We don’t consider the fact that for most of human history this ideological view was not the standard, and when we encounter tribalism in the contemporary world, we firmly believe that those who hold such views are in need of education so that they too might enjoy the benefits of rational thinking. We are so far removed from the world of the ancients that we would never consider consulting with a priest or a prophet in order to determine the orbit of Jupiter or any other circumstance in our purview.

Under the banner of logos, freedom became the highest good of Greek rationalism. However, because the logos is about mental states of the inner man, the idea of freedom does not ultimately reside in the body politic. It is a mental attitude, allowing a man to exercise his mind without concern for the restrictions placed upon his physical existence. Aristotle concludes that to be a good citizen of the polis is to be a moral man, that is, a man of pure reason, of logos, and nothing else.

Logos, then, leads to the invention of individual privacy, the right of each person to be detached from the world of illusion, that is, the world be rifted with illogical appearances.

The detached man is whole in and of himself. He volunteers to become involved in society and social networks. His commitment to community is a choice, not an obligation, even for his own consciousness. In this way, logos provided the grounds for the saying, “Every man in his own castle.” Society became the product of elective choice and therefore it rests on the will of the people, not on the obligations of anyone to human behavior under the auspices of God. All this is in opposition to the Semitic culture, a culture built of moral obligation to care for another regardless of the other’s intellectual agreement. Thus, God can direct His people to provide for the enemy without requiring that the enemy first convert to the tribal view. Today we still see the enormous influence of tribal morality in the Middle Eastern idea of hospitality. It is never optional, unless, of course, you are thinking like a Greek. The smallest building block of society in Semitic thought is the family. In Greek thought it is the individual, and the consequences are enormous.

Ultimately this led to religious syncretism. Eastern thought was incorporated into the Greek philosophy of the Church. Eastern ideas were transformed into universals, often through the mechanics of elaborate rational justifications following the Greek logos. Men began to reason their way to God, and to provide rational grounds for their beliefs based not on the words of the prophet but rather on the collection of evidence that appealed to the mind. For example, today we find believers who argue that the dietary laws are correct because they provide health benefits. This, of course, is entirely a Greek approach even if it is true. The children of Israel, as Easterners, did not follow the dietary laws because they were worried about mercury poisoning. They followed the dietary laws because God said so. End of story. But with the advent of logos, the world shifted. With the adoption of logos by the Church, the world vomited.

“Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. The Greek mind, dying, came to a transmigrated life in the theology and liturgy of the Church; the Greek language, having reigned for centuries over philosophy, became the vehicle of Christian literature and ritual . . . Other pagan cultures contributed to the syncretist result. From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity . . . and the mystic theology that made Neoplatonism and Gnosticism, and obscured the Christian creed . . . Christianity was the last great creation of the ancient pagan world.”[2]

Topical Index: logos, Hellenism, tribalism, John 1:1

[1] Han Jonas, The Gnostic Religion: The message of the alien God and the beginnings of Christianity (Beacon Press, 1963, 2nd Edition), p. 5.

[2] Will Durant, The Story of Civilization, Vol. 3: Caesar and Christ, p. 595, 599.

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Christa

I’m a long time reader. I’ve been here a couple of years reading daily, but almost never saying anything. I came after a couple of years of intense study in the first 5 books that I embarked on after I sincerely asked God what He meant when He said, “If you love me, keep My commandments.” That question has been answered, but I’ve added dozens more! I still do not feel like I’m savvy enough yet to have anything valuable to contribute, but after reading Pam’s and Laurita’s comments the other day, I think it’s time for me to try to join the conversation.

I grew up in a family that is more tribally oriented than most–although in psychological circles they might use the term “enmeshed”! But oddly enough, it’s the detachment and freedom to be an individual that has allowed me to ask the questions and get the real answers and do my own thing with them. No wonder it’s such a struggle to follow Torah all on my own. This is supposed to be done in community and I’m a little lost out here in this Greek world.

My heart just breaks over the broad acceptance of paganism. And they cannot, will not, see it or correct it. I have tried for a few years to use the term “resurrection Sunday” instead of Easter, but I recently realized since they are actually celebrating Easter, they might as well call it that!

Laurita Hayes

Hi, Christa! Nice to know you. I think I have learned that we get when we give; its the heart that counts, and we need everything about each other, for sure.

I know what you mean about loneliness: I am the only one in my tribe, too. I think we all start out isolated; the gospel is about giving us a way to connect again. Keep persevering. I am learning how to reach out and touch those who are ‘different’ than me by finding ways that we are really the same, after all. We are all lonely together! (Um, that would be a sad laugh you hear from me.)

pam wingo

Welcome Christa your heart shows through and blessed me immensely. I have fellowship at work of just mentally and physically disabled. What is so delightful is they have no fear in commenting on anything. Their sense that God values them outshines and they never feel embarrassed or competitive. I am amazed how they can break down difficult thought and concepts that took me years too understand and they act on it.To them it’s life not just head knowledge. Sometime I will have them write here and everyone will know what I mean. To them a thumbs up or down button has no meaning and would not intimidate them . They have taught me the value we should have in every believer even in disagreement. When I am under the illusion I’m being profound out of the mouth of babes . Last week one girl who loves acts of kindness asked me did I do any today. I was honest and said no her simple but not critical response was “why not” you tell us too. What a woe moment.!!!

Sonia

Sadly, there are a lot of us “islands” out there. However, via places like this, we are slowly finding each other. I think YHVH is helping his sheep not only hear His voice, but is gathering us together so that we can find other like-minded believers and obeyers (great English, huh 🙂 of His Word.

Laurita Hayes

Skip, it has struck me that there are no disembodied ‘truths’ out there: all truth is about the essential relationship BETWEEN everything and everyone. Truth provides the foundation, the purpose, and the reason for the facts, but Yeshua called Himself Truth. He embodied truth, literally. Truth does not exist outside that embodiment.

I know we want to read “In the beginning was the Word” as if “Word” was a disembodied ‘truth’; a FACT. But, wouldn’t that be the Greek in us? Isn’t that Word the embodiment of the revelation of Torah in its essence to us? There is no way I can get around this.

The thought that man can even be an “island; entire of itself” (John Donne) is just another manifestation of this fracture of truth from its living Source. Truth only shows up in living bodies; all outside that life is merely the supporting facts. God Himself is the embodiment of love; of life. There is no life outside that embodiment, as there is no love that exists ‘on its own’ in an ideal state.

As we are made in the image of God, and as we are defined in our identity as a family unit: as a single Body, in fact, there is no identity in isolation from those essential connections. A person alone is no person at all; just ask a person on death row; they are truly the “walking dead”; the worst punishment of all. In that image of family: of connection, is there not a divine ‘family’, too?

About Egypt and the unholy trinity: evil can only imitate; it can not create. Evil is not original in any sense at all. Evil is an imposter: a faker: a thief and a liar and an imitation. Evil can only pervert the good. for there is nothing else. Is not that unholy trinity – that unholy ‘family’ – not just a perversion of the truth? The truth that love only happens BETWEEN? Between whom?

Seeker

Laurita well said. Just something else. Their are religions today that teach their followers that God is but a word and when they follow the exact instructions of their spiritual leaders they will be blest.
Understanding that universal rules are greater than specific words spoken by preachers or elders is needed to keep focussed on the true rules laid down by God and taught throughout the ages is what redeems not some mystical belief created through misunderstanding the meaning of logos.

Thank you Skip for sharing an insightful reflection that is easy to use.

Seeker

Was it not Moses that first sowed this idea . The words shared are not far nor difficult to to. We just need to accept them and apply them.

Judi Baldwin

“They followed the dietary laws because God said so. End of story.”
Yes, absolutely…they/we follow the dietary laws because God said/says so. Nonetheless, it’s hard to deny the fact that there are health benefits to be gained by avoiding those things that God claimed for Himself in the offerings in Leviticus…blood, fat, liver and kidneys.

Laurita Hayes

That was a good simple way to put it, Judi: the best summary I have ever seen. That helped. I am still slogging through this, myself.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, then, could we say that this could be facts following truth?

I was taught kosher at a young age, and it used to drive me nuts: did God forbid this stuff because it was ‘bad’, or was it bad because God forbade it? Did God curse perfectly ‘good’ blood and fat, or did He create it somehow defective? Was I a good Greek, or what? I know I was a hard child to live with. (It probably is not a lot better, now.) Y’all are very patient with me!

Judi Baldwin

Good questions Laurita. Not sure, but we know that God considered those things a “pleasing aroma” when burned, so they probably weren’t defective. Perhaps they fall under the category of a two-fer…(two-for-one) 1)Pleasing to God. 2) Better for us if we don’t eat them.
That’s my scholarly answer. :-)))

F J

Peace to all.

Just came across another understanding about the pleasing aroma…., the fat, the kidneys & the liver appendage offered to El on the altar. The fat represents our inclination to comfort and the physical body to increase, the liver represents the richness of our pride & the kidneys…sorry… I can’t recall the symbolism.
I suppose ‘the blood’ of our imperfect life that needs to be exchanged for His.

The symbolised burning these attributes about ourselves in real – lationship IS our prayers where exposure of ourselves enables the dying to that which will not stand in the fire of purity. That is humility and that does please our Father instead of the fire of annihilation it is the fire of purification leading to obedience which is life.
Life to all in Him.

FJ

Judi Baldwin

I just read something that might shed some light on the soothing aroma. As the Torah describes the sacrificial service, it says that the priest shall burn the body of the sacrifice on the altar. When the smoke of the offering rises to heaven, the LORD receives it as a “soothing (or pleasing) aroma.” At first this seems strange. Does God really like the smell of burning meat? Rashi interprets the “pleasing aroma” as a metaphor for man’s obedience. He explains that the aroma of the sacrifice brings pleasure to the LORD because it is a token of His children’s obedience. “Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed than the fat of rams.” 1Samuel 15:22.

David Hankins

Judi and ALL Blessing!!! Was Rashi not right in his observance of the “pleasing aroma”? When Yeshua spoke of being the Truth, was he not talking about Torah? I like some of you was a “Christian”. Then HaShem lead (when Moshe told HaShem that he, Moshe, wasn’t the one for the job) me to start and facilitate a Bible study, G-d opened my eyes of understanding and unplugged my ears and in two and a half years of getting through Torah, I understood things that were being taught in the Church as being misunderstood for about 2000 years or not taught correctly. I was lead to Skip and a few others who are (my opinion) teaching that which we need to be feed. I TRY to help those who He has put in my care, understand what we are reading, studying in the Torah and TaNaKh. These are ALL still “Christians” and I don’t know that G-d will allow me to try teaching the Brit Hadashah, because I have not been fully grounded in the Torah and TaNaKh. His will be done in ALL things and as family may He bless us to love as He does.

Randy Mitchell

You have to understand the difference between clean and unclean. Like a menstrating woman who is unclean-she is not bad. Morality is not a Hebrew concept, obedience is! (It has to do with the lost potential for life in the womb) The easiest and simplest way for me is to think of it as food, and not-food.

Mark Randall

To be fair, I see history saying that the Judaism’s didn’t fare much different or better than Christianity did. Just to be balanced here…

I mean, it(Judaism) did almost totally evolve into mysticism(akin to the occult) and Rabbinical dogma. The “early Christians”/followers of Yeshua, did in fact, for the most part, hold to a more biblical Torah perspective. I mean for one thing, as long as there were still the 12 around, and many of whom they personally discipled, they would have still held and maintained a good part of being Torah observant. We actually see evidence of this far into the 3rd and 4th century. Even scripture says there always has been, and always will be a remnant of people that do their level best to observe “all” that He commanded. There have also been many “Jewish” followers of Yeshua that have maintained as well. There’s a good article wrote regarding Jewish believers of Yeshua done by “One for Israel”. You can search the title “God Always Left A Remnant Of Jewish Believers” and check it out.

See, I like the “fair and balanced” method. “All have sinned and fallen short…” None can be saved without confessing Yeshua Messiah is Lord!

F J

Yeshua Messiah is Lord is the same as saying I believe God for my Salvation and has existed in ALL generations for the benefit of the fallen who would choose to receive the word of faith reverberating throughout the creation. God’s mercy reverberating within us if we but listen. The cosmic cry is the Lamb slain before the Foundation of the World. Will we hear it? Will we dare to listen? Only the brave can be humble Only the brave seek truth. Just like the folk Pam Wingo spoke about they never ‘created’ a mask to hide their fears behind so have no need for the courage of humility because they have never surrendered humility. Some Jews placed their traditions to “create salvation ” again using a man-made recipe that drops a pebble in the pond of Creation to cause ripples against the purer eternal emanation of truth. Another distortion of image from the pebble of churchianity.. Ultimately God will still the pond and again to be the one pattern upon the pond.
Shalom
FJ

Mark Randall

Thank you for your comment FJ.

Yeshua is Immanuel, “God with us”. He is Yeshua because “He saves His people”. There is no other means or no other way for atonement, Salvation, redemption or to stand right before the Father. Hence, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, that Yeshua Messiah is Lord.

Shalom.

Randy Mitchell

All of Rabbinic Judaism today has as it’s ancient origin the School of Rabbi Hillel whose teachings often mirror Yeshua’s. They are the Messianic-friendly rabbinical group that helped the Followers of the Way. Think Nicodemus, Rabbi Gamliel. Thr School of Rabbi Shamai and the Sadducees died in the Temple Destruction. Paul, betrayed his rabbi and was following the stricter teachings of Rabbi Shamai efore he met Yeshua. We owe alot to this early sect! Hashem saved them through miraculous means!

Vicki Jacobi

Some good friends and devout believers recently steered me to your website, Skip. There is a lot to digest here. Profound thoughts abound. Digging into your concepts. Thank you for opening up new avenues to ponder.

Randy Mitchell

That’s all fascinating Skip, but ignores the fact that John is commenting on Genesis 1:1. In the Hebrew we have untranslated words, called by so-called scholars direct object markers. Though this can be the function, the Aleph-Tav, the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet gives us this: In beginning, created Elohim את the heavens ואת (and) the earth. So we see John is telling us, and Paul agrees, G-d created through His Word, aka the Aleph-Tav all things!

Walter Schminky

Perfect

Randy Mitchell

Problem is, your statements are in Greek thinking. John was a Jew, a Hebrew thinker. Though the translation says Logos, let us always look to the Hebrew thinking underneath it. Davar, Hebrew, or Memra, Aramaic, is what John is referring to. Look at the Targums that talk about YHWH’s intermediary, the Memra, who saves, redeems, and speaks for YHWH! Plus the structure of the sentence reveals he is commenting on Genesis 1:1, where the Aleph-Tav, is the Word, by whom the heavens and the earth were created. The only reason to ever look to the Grrek, is to figure out the Hebrew thinking behind it. Hebrew is the only language purcenough to express YHWH’s original intent.